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sanctions, the obama administration imposed on russia that he may have had conversations about that with russia's ambassador before donald trump became president, but kellyanne conway says the president still has full confidence in his national security advisor. that is going to do it for us here. mtp daily starts right now. if television monday, it's the new white house headed for it's first staff shake-up? mike flynn's job is in jeopardy. >> general flynn does enjoy the full confidence of the president. i'd have to know what the full example is what the facts are to answer the question. north korea is a big, big problem. we will deal with that very strongly. >> the rogue nation issues the first major national security challenge to the new white house. and democrats are fired up, but are they ready to go? >> you work for us.
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you work for us. >> this is mtp daily and it starts right now. good monday evening, i'm peter alexander in washington in for chuck todd. welcome to mtp daily. we begin this evening with another manic monday covering the trump white house as it battles instability, policy confuse, brewing international showdown with a nuclear north korea and calls for a staff shake-up at the white house's top national security post. also some news just in, senior administration official tells me that national security advisor general michael flynn called vice president pence to apologize for misleading him about his communications with the russian ambassador. even though flynn's most recent statement on the matter was that he couldn't recall if sanctions were discussed. this afternoon, president trump held a news conference after hosting canadian prime minister justin trudeau at the white
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house where he was asked about, well none of these issues. specifically the president took questions from a conservative website the daily caller and a local outlet owned bay media group that jared kushner reportedly negotiated with in an effort to secure better media coverage. according to politico's reporting back in december. in the president's defense, he gets to call on whoever he wants at these events, but it seems clear, this is a white house trying to move past difficult questions about say the trust worthiness and the president's national security advisor. following a missile test bay rogue nation, but it is hard, of course, to avoid these questions for too long. just moments ago, white house counselor kellyanne conway was asked by my colleague steve kornacki if national security advisor flynn has the full confidence of the president. >> general flynn does enjoy the full confidence of the president. >> by saying he enjoys the full confidence of the president, are you saying you're satisfied that he did not have those conversations? that he did not mislead the vice president? >> those are two different questions. you asked me and i'll repeat the
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answer. does he have the full confidence of the president? yes, he does. then you're asking me what did he talk about with people when i wasn't on the phone. so the only way is to tell you what he has said. he can't recall. >> so there you have kellyanne conway saying the president has full confidence in flynn, even though flynn is not admitted to leading the white house according to administration. steve kornacki's questioning about the appropriateness of a private citizen discussing russian sanctions before mr. trump took the oath of office. she said she would not engage in a quote hype theft call set of non-facts. a white house official tells nbc news several aids have been encouraging president trump to fire national security advisor michael flynn, although multiple white house sources say a move is not eminent and tells the washington post there is broad consensus inside trump's white house, that he lied to the white house about conversations he had with russia. on sunday's "meet the press,"
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the white house senior policy advisor steven miller would not say if the president has confidence in flynn. sflen not the only one under fire right now. confidence of president trump, news max c sow publicly blaming white house chief of staff for botching the travel ban's rollout. he is questioning the ability to handle the job, although the source tells nbc news is at least for the moment safe. all of the staff and chaos comes amid policy chaos on multiple fronts. the "new york times" reports there was growing turmoil at national security council over national security policy. staff members get up in the morning read president trump's twitter post and struggle to make policy to fit them. not exactly how the founders drew this up. meanwhile embattled white house team is confronting a major test on the international policy front as north korea fired a ballistic missile into the sea of japan this past weekend. that prompted a scramble at president's private club at mar-a-lago and pictures surfaced
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on social media appearing to show mr. trump and aids huddled with members of the public nearby, perhaps discussing what to do. although nbc news has not independently verified the timing of these photos. i'm joined by the republican congressman, chris collins of new york who was the first member of congress to endorse donald trump, then candidate trump for president, also a key advisor to the presidential transition where he served as the main liaison between members of the house and the transsigs. also advised on hiring and staffing. congressman collins, thanks for being here. >> good to be with you today. happy monday. >> and to you. on this monday, i want to ask you about michael flynn been you've advised this administration on staffing issues, if he misled the white house, should he go? >> well, it's my belief and i agree with kellyanne conway he has the full confidence of the president and as people would look back say a year ago, there were two individuals that were at the president's side,
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candidate then donald trump and it was general flynn and it was senator sessions. those two individuals were on the plane, they were going to every rally, every stop, so when you look at the loyalty factor and we all know that president trump is -- he judges loyalty, first and foremost, and mike quinn, or mike flynn, general flynn, certainly has that tie with the president. so i think other people are making something that i don't frankly sign on to. i think he has the full confidence of the president. >> to be clear, you think the loyalty should, for lack of a better word, trump the idea that he potentially lied or misled the vice president of the united states? >> well, i don't accept as a given and again, it's a hypothetical, i think it's clear that he as the national security advisor elect if you will getting ready to come in, had conversations with numerous people as a jump start to his new position. i don't think there's anything wrong with that. it would be expected.
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and he's certainly a professional. i don't know the details of any conversations, but -- >> understanding all of those things. >> right. >> so let me just -- >> i don't -- >> so in the simplest of temples. i'm sorry to interrupt you. if one of your staffers misled you would you let them go? >> well, you're using a definitive statement that he was misled -- >> no, i'm just asking as a separate topic. one of your staffers misled you, if that were the case, would you let that person go? >> probably not, i would sit down with that individual, we would talk through what the issue is. again, i'm not somebody -- i would be someone that would accept at face value a good, loyal employee saying maybe if they misled me in some way, let's talk through that and i would tell ewe small chance i would let anyone go. >> why is mike flynn apologizing to vice president pence as was just confirmed bay senior administration official? >> well, i don't know that that's the case at all. that's a conversation between
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general flynn and vice president pence. but i do know that this country is safer with general flynn as national security advisor then we would be without general flynn as national security advisor. >> broadly speaking for all americans say, do you then support the idea that there should be an investigation, at least clear up this issue for the sake of americans? >> no. i would not put this into some area of investigation anymore than i would do, you know, an investigation of kellyanne speaking about ivanka, you know, in a very light hearted fashion -- >> are these the same, do you think? do you think there's parallelism? >> i don't mean to say that, i'm saying people jumping and using words like let's investigate this or that. these are internal matters between the president, his staff, i think it should stay right there, there's no need for any kind of investigation when it comes to the president and the staff that he relies on and the interworkings within the staff. >> understood.
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>> that's something that the president of the united states has to be comfortable with. he's a decisive individual, and i have every confidence that whatever he feels is best for his administration is the road he'll travel. >> so is -- i guess the question then is from what you have seen from this white house, do you have full confidence in the white house team that president trump has assembled around him to this point? >> oh, 100%, it's just frustrating that senator schumer and some of the others in the senate have delayed the full team coming in. we just got congressman price confirmed as secretary on friday. we're just getting steve mnuchin confirmed today as treasury, we've still got interior to go, we've got energy and others. by this point in time, obama's cabinet was effectively full. here we are three weeks in, we've still got six or more cabinet officials to place. it's disgraceful what the democrats in the senate, especially senator schumer have done to slow off these great individuals to coming to work and getting the country moving
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in the right direction. >> to be clear, and a lot of kmampl examples as the others have reported out of approaching 700 different posts, the president only i think nominated 600 -- or shy of 40 of them. there's like 660 vacancies in that front. so there's still a lot of nominations that they are waiting on. let me ask you specifically about the president's team right now. this was the senior white house policy advisor, steven miller on the sunday shows this week. and talking about the travel ban. the president's agenda questions about white house ethics and debunked claims of massive voter fraud. here's what steven miller said. >> our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see as we begin to take further actions that the powers of the presidency to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned. the bottom line is the president's powers in this area represent the apex of executive authority. i do want to say that sean spicer, as always, is 100% correct. we have a president who has done more in three weeks than most
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presidents have done in an entire administration. i am prepared to go on any show, anywhere, any time, and repeat it and say the president of the united states is connect 100%. >> to say the president is correct 100% of the time, is that a team capable of handing criticism or adjusting policy or owning up to facts that looks representative of a team dispatched to speak directly to the president. doesn't it? >> oh, you know, peter, i think the job that president trump and his team have done is exceptional. especially given the fact that he doesn't even have his full team put together. you know, you take one step at a time, in this case, a judge ruled on the executive order on the travel ban. pointed out some ambiguities that he thought were ambiguities, easy enough to fix, easy enough to come forth with a new executive order that addresses that. call that a very small bump. we move on, we keep the border secure, we keep the country safe. what the press is saying is, you
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know, disarray or confusion or whatever they may want to say. i don't think it's that at all. we just continuous improvement, we move forward, i think we may see a new executive order coming forward. >> this week, as i understand. >> addresses all of those concerns. and then we just again, we move on, and i just don't see the disarray. i mean, president trump's been in three weeks, he doesn't have his full cabinet, and it's true, what he's been able to accomplish is extraordinary. >> let me ask you just to punctuate this thought and conclusion, do you agree with what steven miller said that the powers of the president in his words will not be questioned? isn't that the job of the other two branches of government? to check his power. >> well, when it comes to the president's authority to secure our borders and decide who does or does not come into this country, he does have absolute powers. and there's no question about it. the ambiguity surrounded green cards and visa holders. >> reporter: just to be clear,
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absolute powers, you're telling me the president has absolute powers on regarding our boarders. >> immigration, i think if you read it, he does have. that is a power that rests in his hands and the judge knit picked green card holders and visa holders. that can be easy addressed, but the president of the united states clearly has the authority to close the borders, to people that he does not believe should be coming into in that would put our nation and security at risk. and that is not to be questioned. >> all right. we'll let the judiciary be the judge of that. chris collins, thank you very much. >> good to be with you, peter. michael steele was a senior advisor to jeb bush's campaign and the press secretary for john boehner. maria kumar and susan page, go you northwestern, the washington bureau chief for the usa today. northwestern, big win. we'll talk about that soon. i know you were thinking about it. let me start with you guys broadly and maria get your take on what we heard in that
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conversation. chris collins is defending what we heard steven miller say which is the president has absolute power on the issue of immigration in americans borders. >> there is so much to that interview i want to dissect, let's go back when president obama had tried to extend doc ka for families of undocumented imgraduates through executive order. there was a rule that was -- the judge basically ruled that that was overreach on his part. conversely, you can argue if it was overreach for the president to allow -- to extend protections for undocumented, you could conversely argue that the president does not have the authority because basically the overreach at the end of the day is for immigration purposes actually coming from the congress. the body that collins -- excuse me, that the senator just served. >> congressman collins. your take on that conversation? >> we know that the president has a lot of authority when it comes to immigration. he does not have unfettered authority on anything. he does not have the authority to violate the constitution or the authority to violate congressional laws including 1965 law that said you cannot
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discriminate immigration on basis of national origin. so, and i think that the whole -- our whole system of checks and balances says, no branch of government has -- cannot be questioned, all the branches of government face some checks and balances. that is the genius of the system. >> does the white house get that? does the white house believe that the president has absolute power on these issues as communicated by steven miller presumably to an audience of one and chris collins as well? >> substantially certainly. not absolute. the desire to hit the ground running have a shock and awe campaign, led to a situation where changes, which are in some cases otherwise very popular have not been vetted with congress, have not been vetted appropriately with the appropriate departments, seen it's more difficult to enact an enduring change in policy if you don't dot the i's and cross the t. >> you serve closely with the folks and republicans in congress right now, what is the reaction privately.
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what are the whispers that you hear from republicans right now in the way this is being governed by the president? >> well, i think they'd like them to take a deep breath and make sure these things are done right. there are big things coming up. repeal and replace of the affordable care act, tax reform, et cetera, that have h a huge impact on tens of millions, hundreds of millions of americans and it needs to be done in a thoughtful, step by step fashion rather than through kind of slap dash seaming executive orders. >> michael flynn still has the full confidence of the president right before we got on the broadcast, senior administration official confirmed that michael flynn had effectively apologized on friday to vice president pence for -- this was not the word provided to me, but as they answered yes, the affirmative to for misleading the vice president related to the communications he with the russian ambassador. so if flynn can't recall, the conversations and whether he discussed russian sanctions, what is he apologizing for?
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>> that's not a fair question. the fact that you are seeing fractions even within the republicans not feeling that they could trust flynn just an hour ago, senator collins said if he is -- if it's true that basically he lied under oath, then we're not going to be able to take him seriously in his position. but i think that we have a broader problem right now. and that is that you're seeing a lot of republicans on the house and in the senate falling in line behind the administration, giving them unfettered access and we do not have a role in checks and balances. >> and that's what susan collins says. if it is true that i as an individual, as a member of the senate, i feel uncomfortable being able to actually pull my information from him if at the end of the day he did not work. >> are we knit picking the conversation? >> because it means the idea of an investigation into what he said and did and whether it violated the law is congressman
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collins made clear is not going to happen. and that's a traditional check and balance that we're just not going to see, at least that the point with the congress under republican control. >> just to conclude on this topic, i think the way that president trump handles michael flynn saying anything for the phrase, you're fired. may indicate if he circles and they protect this guy, a realed a version. >> they're competing loyalties here. he's loyal to general flynn and loyal to the vice president who is apparently misled. at the same time, the biggest part of this decision has to be what's best for the american people, our national security, and keeping them safe, thus far, the president has decided that general flynn being in this position is the best thing for our national security and republicans on the hill are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that. >> michael, maria, susan, stay with us. coming up right here, also coming up at the top, democrat on the house and intelligence committees weighing in on general flynn's future in the white house. stay tuned, you're watching mtp daily. there are over 47 million ford vehicles out here.
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welcome back to mtp daily, republicans are pushing back against the white house after a top trump official again repeated false claims about rampant voter fraud in the 2016 election. here's what white house senior policy advisor steven miller said. >> this issue of bussing voters into new hampshire is widely known by anyone who's worked in new hampshire politics, it's very real, it's very serious. this morning on this show is not the venue to lay out evidence, voter fraud is a serious problem in this country. >> so the bottom line is people who work in new hampshire politics disagree. new hampshire's deputy secretary of state told nbc news, quote, we have seen no evidence to support a claim that bus loads of massachusetts residents have come into new hampshire to vote in our elections. and former new hampshire republican party chair, who is a trump critic, tweeted and offered to pay $1,000 to the first person who can prove even one out of state person took a
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do not drink alcohol in excess. a skbrnchts welcome back to mtp daily, we just heard from sean spicer moments ago about lieutenant general mike flynn's future at national security advisor. spicer just told reporters the president is evaluating the situation and that he's speaking to vice president pence about the conversation the two of them had. joining me now, democratic congressman adam schiff, he's the ranking democrat on the house permanent select committee on intelligence. congressman, thanks for being here. >> it's great to be with you. >> we heard from kellyanne conway, one of the president's advisors moments ago, she said that mike flynn, national security advisor, president trump's national security
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advisor still has the president's full confidence right now. are you confident in the job that mike flynn is doing right now and should americans be? >> no, i'm not at all. and of course this comes on the heels of a troubled past when he was the head of the dia, if this is somebody who can't remember discussing with the russian ambassador sanctions that the president placed on russia that very day, that really strains credulity. it's hard to believe and we need a national security advisor that the president can trust, the american people can trust. i think it's time for him to step down. >> you've said that if mike flynn lied or intentionally misled the vice president that he would have to go. have you spoken to your republican colleague, the chairman of your committee, devin nunez about possibly investigating mike flynn and where does that stand right now? >> we have certainly spoken about the investigation that we're doing of russian covert influence operations in the united states. that's a bipartisan investigation in the committee. and i think this ought to be within the scope of what we
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investigate. certainly if there are contacts between flynn as a chief surrogate for the trump campaign and the kremlin during the campaign, that's well within our per view, if those contacts continued after, and indeed the subject of sanctions was raidsed and then flynn was misleading about it, that ought to be something that has to be investigated. >> but congressman, specific to this issue here regarding the conversations, the communications that may have taken place in that window after president trump was elected, but before he was inaugurated between the russian ambassador and mike flynn, do you know whether the fbi is investigating or any other inquiry taking place in that regard? >> you know, i can't comment on what the fbi may or may not be investigating, but i can say this, we need to request if the fbi or any of the other intelligence agencies have recordings or transcripts of these conversations. we need to see them. we need to listen to them. we need to find out whether the national security advisor was misleading the public, and that ought to be something that is very easily subject to proof. in my view, that's why you
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haven't seen a really full throated defense of general flynn because the administration may understand if those recordings exist, they can very well write them off to being fake news. >> on mike flynn, is the bigger issue he may have communicated with the russian ambassador or he may have covered it up? the communication or the cover up that most concerns you? >> well, with respect to the conversation on december 29th, it's the cover-up, i think that would be most concerning. and the violation, that statute may be unenforceable, it's never been prosecuted. if there were communications between flynn and the kremlin during the course of the campaign, and there was any collusion between the kremlin and the trump campaign, that would be the most serious allegation and the most serious trouble for general flynn. >> do you have evidence that general flynn was using encryption in these communications? you think that should be reviewed, do you have any evidence of that? >> i don't have evidence of what he used to communicate, all we know is what the administration
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has said, spooirs did say early on that general flynn texted the russian ambassador, i don't know what kind of platform he may have used for that, but i think we ought to explore all the communications general flynn had with the russians, had with this ambassador or with anyone else tied to the kremlin. of course it goes back at least to that dinner where he was seated next to putin some time ago. we ought to look at the full scope of communications in any medium that general flynn used. >> are the problems of dysfunction that you and others see within the apparatus right now bigger than michael flynn. which is where are paramount concern about the way the national security is being handled by the administration? >> well, two concerns. first is the role of steve bannon. i think you can see a lot of his fingerprints on some of the dysfunction in the national security council and it's a role he should be playing -- he should not be playing with respect to the nsc, but beyond that, i think you see the influence of a president who may very well be in over his head who begins the morning generally tweeting things that the
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national security staff then has to try to make sense of, justify, irrationalize, it is a dysfunctional presidency from the top on down. the nsc has only one part of the dysfunction. >> so let me ask you about that, the president may quote, in over his head, senate democrats have begun to question president trump's mental health. let me play you what we've heard from some of them. take a listen. >> is it true that republican colleagues of yours express concern about president trump's mental health? >> a few. he lies a lot. he says things that aren't true. that's the same as lying, i guess. that is not the norm for a president of the united states or actually for a human being. >> we have a president who is delusional in many respects. a pathological liar. somebody who is trying to -- >> that's a strong word. >> so do you have concerns about the president's mental health and is that an appropriate question for democrats or
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republicans to be asking? >> well, i'm not a mental health expert, but there does seem to be a pathological quality to the fact that he cannot accept facts that are adverse to him. and to give you the best illustration, the fact that he cannot accept hillary clinton won the popular vote. he has to invent millions of undocumented immigrants voting the fact that he cannot accept that the russians helped his campaign as to deny effectively what all of the intelligence agencies were telling him week after week, that does, i think, speak to a significant problem with this president. now whether that has a clinical diagnosis or not, i'll leave to the experts, but i think it is more than fair to point out that this is outside the range of what i consider either normal, acceptable, certainly questionable activity, whether it has a clinical diagnosis i'll leave to the experts. >> congressman, last question, the washington post has been reporting that the dining room at mar-a-lago, the president's private estate became sort of an
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open air situation room on saturday night as they were watching closely the crisis taking place in north korea with that midrange missile launch. does that concern you? the idea of an open air situation room where citizens, private citizens could watch? >> of course it does. as well as we don't know what documents they were examining with cell phones that may or may not have been compromised. and it's all the more appalling when you consider that this is a crowd that castigated secretary clinton for how she handled classified or confidential information. this is a crowd that castigated susan rice saying quite falsely and unjustifiably that she had misled the country about benghazi and here you have flynn misleading about context with the russians and you have the president and others at mar-a-lago having what should be confidential discussions in a skiff out in the open with patrons. and that of course doesn't get to the question of the jacking up of fees at this private country club that in order to be
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trump family benefit. all of this is not exactly what i would call draining the swamp. >> congressman schiff, we appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> thank you. still ahead right here on mtp daily, we have the latest out of california as more than 100,000 people are forced to evacuate the area around the oroville dam. congressman john will join us next to discuss the situation and a lot more. you're watching mtp daily. this is my retirement. retiring retired tires. and i never get tired of it. are you entirely prepared to retire? plan your never tiring retiring retired tires retirement with e*trade. i'm in vests and as a vested investor in vests i invest with e*trade, where investors can investigate and invest in vests... or not in vests. sign up at and get up to six hundred dollars. dearthere's no other way to say this. it's over.
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welcome back, more dramatic scenes this weekend as we saw more republicans being confronted by their constituents in wisconsin, congressman jim's town hall was filled to capacity and more than 100 more wanted to get in. waited outside while he was pressed on the plan to repeal and replace obamacare. and staying away from town hall, certainly didn't mean you escape the spotlight. last week senator steve danes of montana told elizabeth warren to take a seat while reading coretta scott king's letter opposing jeff sessions for attorney general. this week, a group of constituents confronted senator danes at the airport. they say he's been too silent. they want a town hall. >> just one of those dramatic scenes over the course of this weekend. and coming up right here, can the democrats turn those protests, that energy, into political power? we're going to dig into that
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welcome back. we want to take you to california right now where a dangerous situation at the nation's tallest dam appears to be improving. officials there say the water levels at the oroville dam, that's north of sacramento, are
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dropping. nearly 200,000 people were ordered to evacuate on sunday after a spillway serving that dam developed a hole that threatened to release uncontrolled flood waters. the water has now stopped flowing down the spillway, reducing at least for the moment, the risk of flooding in nearby towns. local sheriff said repairs may be needed before residents can return to their homes, but there is still no time fable for how long they would take. according to to the weather channel, no rain fortunately is expected until later in this week. likely on thursday. and joining me now from california is california democratic congressman john. he is near the dam, and congressman, i know many of your constituents are among those evacuated right now. so we're thinking of them at this time. what is the situation right now on the ground and how are those constituents and those evacuees doing there? >> well about 200,000 of which 150,000 are from my city, about
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20 miles down river. at the present time, it's stable. but there's still an enormous rescue, still have 29 feet of water against that damaged emergency spillway. and we know that there was significant erosion below the spillway, exactly what and how dangerous it is is now in the process of being determined. the engineers are out there. you can probably see behind me, those sacks of, those big sacks, they're filled with rock. they intend to take those rocks probably by helicopter and shore up the outside of that emergency spillway. they want to take it down 50 feet below the spillway so there is no water pressure against at all. but a new storm coming on thursday. >> congressman, give me a sense obviously in times like this, crisis like this, our attention is focussed there in new orleans we focussed on the levies, in
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minneapolis we focussed on the bridge. does this dam need more infrastructure spending, more regulation, would you work with a trump administration to get more help for that dam specifically? what is missing there? >> well, i think we ought to start at 2005 when this dam was up for reliancing from the federal government. a part of that rely sensing was to provide a concrete apron down from the emergency spillway. they were concerned about contamination in the river. turns out that they didn't get that. and the state decided not to put concrete in place. now payday has arrived. and so, we're going to have to rebuild this spillway, both the initial spillway as well as the emergency spillway. and that's going to be probably a couple hundred million dollars -- >> would you work with the president on an infrastructure
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deal, congressman? >> well, i certainly want to see what his proposal is. we had an infrastructure deal that's now in place, we need to do tour more. it's not just this reservoir, it's the levies downstream here in california. and across the nation, the bridges and the rest. i want to see what he's proposing thus far he has proposed that private entrepreneurs and investors will do it, that doesn't work in a situation such as this. so, we need to really put up the money and we need to do it right away. not just here, but all across the nation. >> congress manning, i want to ask you quickly about politics if i may very briefly. plenty of protesters at the town halls across the country against republican congress members. how did democrats harness that energy of these protesters at town halls and at that women's march here in washington? are you willing to work, you know -- how do you accomplish that? how do you get that done? >> very interesting and very, very important question. it's really not within our
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control. this is an organic, these are people taking to the street. yesterday, i did a town hall in davis, california, we had seven, almost 800 people in the auditorium standing room only, and more outside. there was enormous power and energy and determination in that crowd. fortunately for me, there was a friendly crowd. and they're supportive of what i'm doing. really it is in the hands of these people, reaching out all across the nation, putting pressure on all of us, democrat and republican alike to deal with the issues at hand. and they are numerous -- they're all way from the affordable care act to what are we going to do about a wall? by the way, if you've got $30 billion, i've got a place where you can spend it. you can spend it here in california, repairing this reservoir, repairing the levies and building the infrastructure here and all across the nation. so these are things that we must deal with and the energy comes from those people. we will respond to that.
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it's not a matter of us harnessing it, it's a matter of the people of the united states saying we will not tolerate it. >> the dnc right now debating who the next chair should be for the party right now. broadly speaking, what direction do you think the party needs to go? how do you successfully capitalize on this energy when it comes to votes and elections? >> well, the issues are being put forward not only by us as we look at an infrastructure, the health care issues, how to deal with the international issues that are being created by this president, and we want transparency. we want to know what is going on. everything from his tax returns to the communications with flynn and others, these are important critical issues that need to be out there, but the dnc i think has an infrastructure issue of it's own. we need to win the governorships and the state legislatures
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because in 2020, it's going to be a new census and then redistricting immediately following that. that's critical. we cannot continue to have the kind of jerry handering that is so skewed the american political scene. and that is -- that is a principle task in my view of the dnc dealing with the 2018 election and then again in 2020. >> congressman john in california, we are thinking about the people of that community on this night. we hope everybody's safe. >> so am i. and i was at the emergency shelters earlier today, they're concerned and right sloi. hopefully they'll be home soon. >> thank you very much, congress manning. we're going to talk more about the future of the democratic party ahead as democrats look for their next leader. >> can they avoid making the same mistakes that cost them in 2016? you're watching mtp daily.
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this is humira at work. welcome back to "mtp daily." time for the lid. we are here with the panel. in the course of this conversation, the hour before this, kellyanne said michael flynn has the confidence of the president. i ask you susan, about that sort of disconnect in terms of messaging where things stand in terms of michael flynn. >> sean came out to walk it out. this is not the traditional white house. >> to build ovff of that.
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one is the steve bannon who has the ear of the president. spicer is one of the reason they brought him in is the one who have the ear of the president. >> moments ago when this happened sean spicer was speaking with reporters when donald trump passed by, the area where we're allowed to go and he said reince priebus was doing a great job right now. what you do make of this behind the scene where everybody is picking their corners? >> i think the minute by minute tweets and retweets counter tweets are less important. what remains to be seen.
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>> what is the path forward for democrats right now. there's similarity in 2009 the tea party, the advent the moments, right know we're hearing from the democrats in what do they do with this? >> it's an opportunity and it's a risk. you have the energy with the democrats and you have lot of americans in the middle you don't want to rebel and are not willing to compromise on anything. that's going to the task for the democrats. >> a lot of democrats hillary clinton focused on not enough -- >> i think a lot of that quarter backing is if you ask the
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majority of the people, they don't feel the democrats are the part of the working class. as a result we're going to take a risk with donald trump. it's fascinating to me, you have the democrats go into congression congression congressional districts but you have the republicans going in to say let's take this up. air force one, where he said what should i say about my enemies, it was close enemy. it was strange. the president has a quotes hollywood a lot. >> donald trump won the popular votes in 230 congressional district. hillary clinton 205. he won in 30 dates. she won 20.
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republicans can win by conkol dating their own territory, dems have to go beyond that you are territory. democrats in washington, new york and california thought shoe letter was a majority in the first place that's what they will have to do to win it again. >> to you subscribe that they were paid to go into town hall. >> it was organized volunteers i it's impossible to discern. >> thank you, very much, we'll be right back.
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the republicans have apologized where they mistakenly used a picture of donald trump on "snl" instead of real donald trump. that's all for the record. "for the record" with greta starts right now. thank you, peter. for the record president trump japanese prime minister in mar-a-lago. officials telling nbc national security adviser under fire of call of russian ambassador. we're learning about an apology. there's this why this north korea launch that missile was it done to send a sinister ss


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